Any one seen this Jeep video?

[avan]

 

[xt master]

No one said they where high handling sport cars. Also whats up with the driver wearing no helmet and the passenger wearing a cheap bicycle helmet?

 

[TerryMason]

Essentially they overloaded the Jeep. When Chrysler asked them to reproduce the wheel lift they couldn't.

Allpar did this article

A Swedish magazine’s claim that the Grand Cherokee failed its “moose avoidance test” was, according to Chrysler, based on conditions unlikely to be encountered by owners — an overloaded vehicle put under sudden stress. The result was then hyped as being deadly, with a large photo that was picked up by automotive blogs, resulting in publicity for the magazine.

Update: According to Gualberto Ranieri, Teknikens Värld’s driver, Ruben Börjesson, admitted to overloading the car by 110 pounds.

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Chrysler engineers tried to reproduce the wheel-lift in a properly loaded vehicle, but were unable to do so. The magazine conducted the test in the presence of Chrysler engineers, using three Grand Cherokees in eleven separate runs, and were unable to reproduce it, either, according to Chrysler.

Late today, the magazine responded to Chrysler, with Web Editor Mattias Rabe saying they had not overloaded the Grand Cherokee. They put in five people and used sandbags in the luggage compartment to bring it up to the maximum cargo weight, he wrote. He did not explain why the Grand Cherokee was only “lethal” (nobody was actually hurt in the test) during their televised, photographed test, and not in the eleven runs conducted in the presence of witnesses.

Chrysler issued this press release

Grand Cherokee Statement for Teknikens Varld Test

Chrysler Group engineers are investigating a Swedish magazine's evaluation of the 2012 Grand
Cherokee. During the evaluation, the publication was able to capture images of a Grand Cherokee on two wheels as it performed an extreme maneuver in an overloaded condition.

Advised of this event by the magazine, Chrysler Group engineers made numerous attempts to
reproduce the wheel-lift in a properly loaded vehicle. Extensive testing produced no such result.
A subsequent evaluation was conducted by the magazine July 8 in Sweden and witnessed by Chrysler Group engineers. Three vehicles performed 11 runs on a course prepared by the magazine. None reproduced the original event.

The uncharacteristic result was obtained using a vehicle loaded beyond its weight specifications. The Grand Cherokee's weight limitations are clearly stated on the vehicle and in the owner's manual. Also, the extreme maneuver performed by the magazine is not certified by any regulatory agency, nor is it used to establish any sanctioned safety ratings.
Chrysler Group takes seriously any safety concerns and engineers are examining the event to better understand the magazine's claims.

A "Top Safety Pick" of the U.S. Insurance Institute for Highway Safety, the 2012 Grand Cherokee is an award-winning SUV that features Electronic Stability Control and Electronic Roll Mitigation as
standard equipment. It meets or exceeds all government safety mandates and its outstanding
performance has made it the most awarded SUV in history.

 

[ScubaDude]

I have many Things to say about this "evaluation"

The vehicles being tested were significantly closer to the ground so the comparison in the first place was already unprofessional. If they had tested it against a Land Rover and other leading and world renown luxury OFFROAD vehicles I might have payed attention to the side by side comparisons.

Jeep doesn't make race cars. If you want to compare it to a Volkswagen that's meant for speed and handling to a jeep that's meant for casual offroading then I invite you to try to keep up to a jeep off the road in a Jetta.

If you're going to try to take away a companies credibility at least don't cheat while you do it. The jeep was loaded with enough weight to slow a mid sized pickup and then thrown through the moose test.

What some people do to try to save their ratings.

 

[bugleboy]

they must be buthurt because jeeps are the best... i dont trust their test

 

[flatie46]

You know, my 19yr old son often borrows my '79 CJ5 with 4" lift. I tell him every single time when I hand him the keys. "IT'S A JEEP...NOT a fine europiean sports car. If you drive fast and turn sharp IT WILL ROLL". I didn't buy it for the handling charicteristics, I bought it to have fun with. Most all SUV's are easier to roll than a car or truck. I just pray they don't try to dumbass proof Jeeps and make 'em like cars.

 

[TrailRatedRN]

When I was in my accident going about 60 on the interstate. I fishtailed a 180 and never felt like I was tipping.

 

[TerryMason]

After a Swedish magazine determined that the Jeep Grand Cherokee had failed its “moose test” (essentially, sudden swerves emulating the sighting and avoidance of a moose in the road), Chrysler accused the magazine of running the Grand Cherokee with more cargo weight than the listed capacity. A car failing the test provides a great deal of publicity to the magazine and allows them to run headlines insisting that the vehicle is “deadly” or “lethal.”


While the magazine claimed the test had been carried out properly, Chrysler representatives were told by a test driver that the Jeep was overloaded. The magazine denied it, but in subsequent tests was unable to get any Jeep Grand Cherokee to fail the test.


The German magazine Auto, Motor, und Sport (AMS) had already tested the Grand Cherokee and found that it passed the test without problems. The German magazine re-tested the Grand Cherokee after the Swedish test, using a test site sanctioned by the Allgemeiner Deutscher Automobil-Club (ADAC). Course dimensions and layout conformed to International Standards Organization (ISO) specifications.


The avoidance event included releasing the accelerator pedal, provoking a load shift. AMS reported, “Whether loaded with 2 people on board or with the maximum permissible total weight, all four wheels maintained contact with the ground to the greatest possible extent. The tested Jeep did not demonstrate one-sided uplift or, let alone, tipping. This confirms the theory that the Cherokee in Sweden was overloaded.”


The Jeep Grand Cherokee was listed as a “Top Safety Pick” by the U.S. Insurance Institute for Highway Safety.

From Allpar

 

[bugleboy]

^alrighty then its laid to rest? jeeps name is no longer soiled by these suv "experts"? it diddnt look lethal in the origional test either, i mean as far as being overloaded and swirving like that on to two wheels, id much rather have a blowout than a rollover, and that was the consistant result